Lessons learned from buying a used van

The search is over. I wrote in January that M and I were in the market for a minivan and we finally bought one: a silver-blue 1999 Honda Odyssey EX that has just 89,000 miles. It’s already proven a nice addition to the family; on a road trip last weekend, we buckled CJ Jr. into his carseat and peeled off wet jackets while staying warm and dry within its spacious interior, as a Nor’easter raged outside our windows.

As an added benefit, we saved about $1,000 on the purchase price—money we plan to shift toward our goal of building an emergency fund of three months cash reserves.

As thrilled as M and I are with our purchase, it wasn’t easy. At times, we both longed for the convenience and security of buying brand new. But I did learn a few good lessons from our Odyssey-shopping “odyssey.”

Be patient
The search was slow, lasting six weeks start to finish. Along the way, I visited nine dealerships within a 50-mile radius of our home. I responded to four private ads, even test driving one vehicle while on the way to a family function (for which we ended up being late). And I spent many evening and weekend hours hunting for prospects on cars.com, kbb.com, and phillycars.com.

Even more maddening than the time spent was the time wasted, checking out vehicles that didn’t live up to their billing. Opening the hood of an Odyssey at one small dealer revealed what looked like actual tumbleweeds lodged in a grime-covered engine. A 2001 Nissan Quest advertised as “well-maintained” vibrated unnervingly as M eased it out of the driveway on a test drive.

Was the time and effort worth the ultimate benefit? It didn’t always feel like it. More than once we considered throwing in the towel and diving deeper into savings to increase the $10,000 maximum pricetag we wanted to pay. Now, as we enjoy the extra space and the automatic sliding doors (which CJ Jr. opens with an enthusiastic “Abracadabra!”)—all within our original budget and requirements—I’m glad we patiently stuck to our plan.

Be skeptical
I’m smart enough to raise an eyebrow when a vehicle’s seller says the emergency brake-indicator that continually stays on during my test drive “doesn’t mean anything.” But I almost gave in on one of my key buying criteria—having my own mechanic inspect the vehicle I wanted to buy—because I wasn’t skeptical enough.

Several used car dealers told me I couldn’t drive their vehicle to my mechanic before buying it. The reason? Insurance wouldn’t cover it (my mechanic is near my home, so it usually meant a trip of several miles). After the first few dealers threw up the same roadblock, I was almost ready to concede the point.

But my father, an attorney with lots of experience suing car dealerships, said the dealers’ rationale was nonsense. It was unlikely the vehicles weren’t insured, and even if that was the case, I had coverage as a driver. Most likely, the dealers didn’t want to take the chance that my mechanic would find something wrong.

Sure enough, the dealership that eventually won my business had no problem with me driving the Odyssey the 25-plus miles to my mechanic before I paid a cent. Jason, the salesperson, didn’t ask for a deposit or even the keys to my car. “We’re confident that our guys found everything and anything, so have at it,” he said. My mechanic gave the van a nice thumbs-up (“It’s got a lot of life left in it,” he said) and I had some much-needed peace of mind.

Make an offer
Like many people, I don’t like haggling over a car’s price. But I know that haggling can mean money in my pocket, and I am cheap by nature. So I haggle.

And it works. In buying our Odyssey, I made an initial offer of $8,000, 20% below the dealer’s $10,000 advertised price. I thought it absurdly low for one of the best vans I’d seen, and Jason seemed to confirm it by quickly shaking his head.

“No way,” he said. “There might be some wiggle room, but not that much. We don’t price our cars artificially high and then discount them thousand of dollars during the sale to make buyers think they got a great deal. We advertise what we feel is our best price.”

I took a breath. The Odyssey’s price was certainly in line with others I’d seen advertised for similar vans, I said. But it wasn’t the lowest either, and besides, we had no real idea what other vans were actually selling for. It was probably less than $10,000, I concluded.

“Let me take it to my sales manager and see what we can do,” Jason said.

Five minutes later, he came back with a $9,000 offer. I shook his hand and sealed the deal. Looking back, I wonder if I my “absurdly low” offer was really too high.

The path to wealth is usually a slow one

There are no shortcuts to financial success, but you wouldn’t know it by the Internet. Just Google the phrase “get rich quick” and you get advertisements like these:

“Bring in $100,000 a month: I can teach you how!”

“Turn $600 into $39,000 with the Forgotten Commodity!”

“Earn money fast and LEGALLY!”

Seeking quick riches can spell trouble
The absurdity of the ads’ claims is worth a chuckle. And maybe you've never felt tempted to click one just to “see what it’s all about.” But someone is clicking, and buying into the ads’ promises—otherwise they wouldn’t exist.

“Quick and easy” is a good description for making a box of Mac n' Cheese, not building wealth. After all, “The trustworthy person will get a rich reward, but a person who wants quick riches will get into trouble.” (Psalms 28:20)

Overnight wealth, or lasting peace?
In their research for the bestselling book, The Millionaire Next Door, Drs. Thomas Stanley and William Danko found that “building wealth takes sacrifice, discipline, and hard work”—hardly the stuff offered by the Internet ads above. But chances are most folks wouldn’t click on ads like these:

“Learn the secret to financial success: Spend less, save more!”

“Retire a multimillionaire—in just 30 years!”

“Be content with what you have. Find out how!”

Living below your means, using a monthly spending plan (budget), setting aside money for the future, and avoiding debt won’t you get rich overnight. But they can vastly improve your chances of accumulating wealth in the long run. More importantly, they offer the promise of something much better: lasting peace and contentment.

Woman's good financial sense leads to windfall

Making wise personal finance decisions can be hard because they often require short-term sacrifices for long-term benefits. But they do pay off--and as one California woman found--even quite handsomely.

Hoping to help pay for her oldest daughter's tuition to the University of California, Berkeley, the woman decided to auction off a painting that once belonged to her grandmother, according to an Associated Press report. Instead of the few thousand dollars the woman was expecting the painting to fetch, she was stunned at the picture's final bid: a whopping $620,900.

A possibly difficult choice

Not having the needed funds for her child to attend a terrific school like Berkeley, Mom could have easily required the daughter to load up on student loans. As colleges go, Berkeley is a nice value; in-state undergraduate tuition for 2006-2007 averages only $7,800. Commuting to school from home, the daughter could conceivably graduate in four years with a "reasonable" $70,000 in debt.

But Mom faced head-on what may have been an emotionally difficult choice: Part with a painting that hung on the wall for years in her grandmother's home in Italy? Or strap her child (or the family overall) with a debt-load that might take years and years to pay off?

By choosing to sell the painting, the family can now afford to provide all of their children with higher educations without putting themselves behind the financial eight-ball. Maybe they can even have a more secure retirement.

The wisdom of avoiding debt

To be sure, the woman's experience is rare. The sold painting was unsigned, rumored to be the lost work of 17th-century Italian art master Pier Francesco Mola. Who knows if it is worth the price that the unnamed art dealer paid for it.

I won't be searching my parents' basement anytime soon for family heirlooms that could help pay our kids' college costs. But, like the mother in this story, I will do whatever I can to avoid overloading our family and our children with substantial student loan debt. That approach may not get us a cool $600,000, but I know that it, too, will have its rewards.

Want that bank fee waived? Then ask

The ATM receipt I held gave me a sickening feeling. A negative sign showed next to the balance amount.

M’s and my checking account was overdrawn, and I knew exactly why. I’d forgotten to deposit a check I had put in my wallet earlier in the week, which was why I had gone to the ATM in the first place.

The good news is that I didn’t have to pay an overdraft fee, and not because Commerce Bank didn’t charge one (a nice, hefty $35). In fact, it was because I asked them not to.

A benefit of competition
You might be surprised to know that fees at banks, credit card companies, and other financial institutions are often negotiable. Many times—but not every time—you can avoid paying a charge that’s been levied on you for whatever reason simply by contacting the company and asking them to waive it.

Over the years I’ve saved by having the annual fee on my credit card waived, as well as charges for making a payment by phone (when I’ve been a little late mailing the check). Buying my first house, my father encouraged me to push the mortgage companies competing for my business to remove the many extraneous charges ($35 for courier services, $25 for faxing paperwork, etc.) that they like to tack on to provide the loan. Not every company waived every fee, but some did.

The reason financial companies are willing to let you keep your money? Competition. Losing your business to another bank or credit card company costs them much more than losing the revenue from a one-time $20 or $30 fee. Besides, for every person who asks to have a charge removed, there are many more who simply pay it, no questions asked.

Good financial habits help
That said, financial companies are only willing to go so far. If you make a habit of bouncing checks or paying your credit card late, you have little chance of avoiding the resulting penalty charges, no matter how nicely you ask.

In the years M and I have been customers at Commerce, I can’t recall being overdrawn any other time. We also were never late with a payment on M’s car loan, which they financed, and paid it off several months in advance. So the tedious chores associated with being a good financial steward—balancing the checking account, tracking where our money goes—do have their rewards.

Still, being temporarily overdrawn has shown me that I keep the cash level of our checking account lower than I should. I don’t like the idea of keeping a hundred or so “extra” dollars in the account—money that isn’t accounted for in M’s and my monthly spending plan—where it can be easily tapped. But it’s probably better than relying on my memory to make sure I always make our deposits on time.

Charged up about the cost of a cell phone battery

I've been debating getting rid of M and my cell phones. Buying a cell phone battery has pushed me a little closer to hitting "End Call" permanently.

I've had my LG VX3300 cell phone for about 15 months--not that long, in my estimation. I use it only moderately; I rarely go over the minutes in my service plan and I turn it off when I'm at work. So the fact that the factory model battery recently stopped holding its charge for any length of time was annoying enough.

Then I went to my friendly local Verizon accessory dealer for a replacement. The pricetag: an appalling $49. More than twice as much as I expected. As M pointed out after I got back, "For that, you could have gotten a whole new phone."

I want what I want
Yes, I could have. But I didn't want a new phone. My phone serves my purposes well enough. I don't need a cameraphone, a webphone, or a phone with the ability to answer e-mail.

And I definitely don't want a new cell phone plan, which cheap new phones often come with. I can't wait for our current two-year contract to run out so we can unload it from our monthly budget. I'd rather put $82 toward CJ Jr's college fund--which we've temporarily stopped contributing to, since we went to one income--than give it to Verizon.

I've considered paying the cancellation fee. Dishing out the $150 for each of our two phones is less than half than amount we'll pay ($738) for the next nine months to finish out the contract. But I just can't stomach putting out that kind of money for absolutely nothing.

Two big errors
I do shoulder some of the blame for my battery "overcharge." I didn't shop around beforehand, as I normally do. Afterwards I found one online for half the price.

I also took CJ Jr. with me on my little errand. I may have been more inclined to go to a couple different places, or even ask the Verizon guy about other options, if I had been able to keep both eyes on the cash register instead of one eye on CJ.

Now M and I have to revisit our January spending plan and figure out where that extra $30 or so will come from. That may not sound like much, but it eats up a little chunk of our expected household expenses for the month, which we try to keep as fixed as possible.

Besides, I just wanted a battery, at a reasonable price. Is that too much to ask?

Time to shop for a van

The CJ family is growing. M and I have just found out she’s pregnant, God bless, due in late summer.

While we still have to get through that crucial first trimester—as M cautions, she is 39, which means a greater chance of complications—I’m throwing caution to the wind and proceeding full-speed ahead to prepare for the new arrival. So this weekend I’ll start shopping for a minivan to replace M’s 2002 Honda Civic.

A new experience
I bought my last car, the slightly used 1998 Sentra I drive to this day, eight years ago. Back then I traded in my 1988 Ford Festiva, took out a five-year loan, and made all 60 payments.

This time, I’ll be putting some of the personal finance wisdom I’ve learned to the test. I’ll be selling M’s car privately instead of trading it in. I’ll be looking for a vehicle around three to five years old and between 75,000 and 100,000 miles on it, instead of just slightly used. And I’ll be paying cash instead of carrying around a car loan for half a decade of my life.

Private sale means more cash
The advantages of this approach: First, by selling M’s car privately, I should be able to get more money for it than I would as a trade-in. According to Kelley Blue Book, a good condition Civic like M's sells privately in my area for about $9,400, nearly $1,400 more than its trade-in value. It’s also paid off, so every dollar we get for it goes to us.

Sure, showing the car to buyers will probably be a hassle and it may cost a few bucks to run some ads. But will the time and money be worth another $1,400 that we can apply to the van purchase? I think so. We’ll see.

Used doesn’t mean unreliable
Second, we can in no way afford a brand new Honda Odyssey—the van M prefers—which currently has a minimum pricetag of $26,000. Even if we could, I’d have a hard time shelling out that kind of money for something that will likely worth about half that amount in a couple years.

A high-mileage Odyssey is still relatively pricey—around $9,000 to $12,000—but much of that cost should be covered by the sale of M’s Civic. And while we do run the risk of buying something with unforeseen mechanical problems, Honda and Odysseys have a great reputation for reliability. I also plan to check certified pre-owned vehicles first to see if they are in our price range.

In the end, I expect we’ll pay an additional $2,000 to $4,000 for the luxury of not having to hear my teenage stepdaughter complain about being wedged between two carseats. That’s family peace at an affordable price.

No borrowing costs, less risk
Lastly, I’m looking forward to telling a car salesperson that I want to pay by check instead of taking out a loan. Financing mostly benefits the dealer, since loans are often where auto retailers make their biggest profits.

For buyers, however, a new car’s value drops like an anvil in its first couple years on the road. Used car values still lose ground each year, though not as quickly. Having a car loan is like borrowing money to buy a stock you know is going to lose money. It doesn’t really make sense.

Plus, say M and I hit dire financial straits down the road and had to sell the van. We may owe more on it than we can sell it for—what’s known as being “upside down” in a loan. That would likely make our tough money situation only slightly better.

Paying cash might mean a dealer and salesperson are less willing to negotiate on a van’s price, since that’s where their only profits will come from. But I’m willing to take that chance. Last I checked, there were lots of used Odysseys for sale in my area.

Stash some cash for emergencies

As I mentioned in my last post, I knew the personal finance books I received for Christmas would yield some good fodder this blog. Here's the first interesting tidbit to share.

In The Wall Street Journal Complete Personal Finance Guidebook, Jeff Opdyke recommends stashing a few hundred dollars cash in a very secure spot in your home, just in case the power goes out in your area for an extended period of time. Though M and I have started using cash on a more regular basis, we get that cash from an electronic ATM. Plus, we're still pretty tied to using our debit card to pay for things.

Other than big snowstorms or the occasional flooding, natural disasters are rare in South Jersey, but having some cash around to pay for groceries in an emergency isn't a bad idea. Now I just have to find a secure place in my home to keep it (something I won't be writing about here).

By the way, the Carnival of Personal Finance is up at My Personal Finance Blog. Check it out if you have a chance.